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DON'T BLAME VIOLENT FILMS FOR SOCIETY'S WOES...

Thursday August 7,2008

By Claudia Goulder


Don't blame violent films for society's woes...

The Joker from Batman is only a fictional character

A few weeks ago I predicted there would be a hoo ha over the violence in the new Batman movie.

Now what d'ya know? There's a hoo ha over the violence in the new Batman movie.

Parents are apparently crying out for stricter censorship on The Dark Knight, which - violent as it is - is still the most popular film in UK cinemas.

Former Home Office minister Keith Vaz has demanded children under 15 should be barred from screenings of the flick, described hyperbolically as a "symphony of sadism".

Even “quiet man” ex-Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith has added his voice to protests that the 12A rating granted by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC ) was woefully inadequate.

But for all this so-called controversy, just how up in arms is Britain, really? And just how dangerous can a classy fantasy in which a man made up as a Joker takes on a man dressed as a bat be for the 12+ youngsters of this country?

It must be so tempting for politicians and the like to blame all society's woes on arty, fictional portrayals of life - instead of on their own botched attempts at "managing" society. To my mind however, a lot of the more sinister aspects of life come from life itself, not from a bunch of actors playing crazed cartoonish villains.

To put things in perspective, the BBFC - whose 33 anonymous members are being portrayed, by some more paranoid corners of the media, as perverse, hand-wringing villains themselves - has received 80 complaints about the movie so far.

Meanwhile around five million people have seen it over the past fortnight. Surely, as Chief Executive of the Film Distributors' Association Mark Batey points out, there would have been far more complaints and frustration in cinemas, had people been denied access to the movie?

True, at the start of the film, one character is terrorised when a grenade is put into his mouth. Later, a man's eye is indeed jabbed out with a pencil and in another scene, the Joker does boast that he enjoys killing with a knife, because it takes his victims longer to die.

This is - make no mistake – dark and sophisticated material. But disturbing as it is, I refuse to believe it's the sort of thing that leads innocent young children to become disenfranchised, knife-wielding terrorists.

If only it was! But the truth is, of course, more complex than that.

We are a society plagued with fear, even though we ought to know by now that the greatest fear of all is of fear itself. We cannot stand the thought of our children feeling scared and frightened... and yet, feeling scared and frightened is one of the most normal, healthy emotions there is.

Once upon a time, in a society far, far away where CCTV cameras and credit checks and on-the-spot fines for cyclists were non-existent, we were less worried about the concept of violence.

Fairytales were not censored. Though deeply disturbing, they were seen as positive influences on kids. They were read out to those much younger than 12 to help them make sense of all the obscure, unnameable dreads and fears that haunted them in the night.

They were passed down from one generation to the next, like precious stones. Take Snow White, the young maiden who – not even out of her teens - was ordered to be killed by her stepmother, a woman so sick she demanded she receive the girl's heart and lungs as proof that she’d been done in.

I am not aware of it being banned, at the time, for fear of “copycat” killings and the like. Now of course most fairytales are stripped of their more gory scenes and replaced with something less shocking.

It’s the Big Brother style do-gooders of this world who cry out when a film like The Dark Knight is given a 12 rating.

These are the same do-gooders who are up in arms with the number of CCTV cameras around. But with stricter rules on film, come stricter rules on life. We have to choose which way we want it to go.

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A JOKE ON THE JOKER!

21.08.2008, 9:05pm

Although a well considered article full of thought-provoking ideas, you've got to be wrong about accepting an age 12 permit on this movie. I agree that worse than this surrounds young people, and in my childhood terrifying fairy tales were told to me before I could evaluate them myself, but that does not mean it's ok for the film industry to condone, or even encourage the haunting violence portrayed brilliantly by HL. And even he died in the making of it maybe because it stirred up so much in him?

But you were right from the outset, so good for you and maybe more public input to the age censorship would be a good idea?


• Posted by: Annypurple08Report Comment

VIOLENT FILMS...

11.08.2008, 2:24pm

How interesting all these comments are. I find myself agreeing with bits of what everyone says and I am starting to see both sides of the coin, though cannot say i have changed my attitude completely. When Bluenote says violent films "titillate the weak and the copycatters" I do agree.. I just don't think the majority of well-adjusted cinema-goers are so affected. I also agree with another comment about ignorance being at root of most wrongdoing...
Incidentally, I watched the film for a second time over the weekend. It was a 5.30pm screening on Saturday and I didn't see one young person in the audience, all looked over 18. I still enjoyed the film but I found it more frightening the second time. I also found it way too long (like most Hollywood films these days) and over-complicated. What I ended up thinking was 'I'd be surprised if any teen could actually be bothered to sit through this!'
Anyway, I know I appall and exasperate many readers with my views but thank you all for taking the time to read and debate. I learn a lot from it!
Party Crasher

• Posted by: Claudia7Report Comment

OF COURSE IT IS!

10.08.2008, 10:21pm

Its fools like this that do not help the crisis that is Britain at this tim! Of course they contribute towards social ills, as do thier role models in sport, music, Tv, assisted by the most destructive of all, the politicians and the liberal fools that lead them. Add to the mix an amoral and uneducated m**** whose whole way of life is directed by the very insidious garbage that spews from the TVs every single day, look at the teenage thugs that pervade society now, they didn't appear over night, it is the insidious corrosion of all social barriers, the decline in morals and law enforcement, the PC cretins, etc. So on its own it isn't responsible but added to everything else it most certainly plays its part, so don't be stupid and try to defend the indefensible, be part of the cure not part of the problem.

• Posted by: KornflakeReport Comment

DON'T BLAME VIOLENT FILMS FOR SOCIETY'S WOES...

10.08.2008, 12:00am

Violent fims and video games do have a small part to play, but we have to look at the wider picture and both Labour and Conservatives have ruined society with anti marriage tax and stupid child laws so NO ONE any more can control children, the news spells this out every day and still THEY DON'T LEARN even though they keep trotting out the the mantra we will listen and make sure this does not happen again , the Politicians running this country should all be sacked as the incompetants they are

• Posted by: treehuggerReport Comment

IGNORANCE.

09.08.2008, 5:26pm

The breakdown of society is not caused by violent films..weve always had them.
It is caused by ignorance.
Ignorance starting with parents.
Ignorance continuing with bad schooling.
Ignorance causing lack of discipline, and lack of discipline causing ignorance.
And which country has some of the most ignorant teenagers in the world?

• Posted by: stevewoReport Comment

SOPHISTICATED COMMENT

09.08.2008, 5:08pm

Great analysis in your blog and no wonder you're getting comments. I haven't seen the film but I must do just to check up on your comments.
At my age at least I'm allowed to see it, so I'll judge for myself. However I was brought up on TV westerns when 40 years ago on our screens in the UK it was normal for cowboys to use guns and knives especially if there were a few Injuns to injure. A popular musical at the time based on Romeo and Juliet called West End Story was all about street gang fights. I don't remember people complaining then about how NY was becoming too violent as a result. In fact the big apple is a much safer place now. There's plenty of evidence that violent crime has gone down considerably even though "waterboarding" and other torture is openly defended by the US President.
Right then Claudia, I'm off to see the movie and check this out for myself. Sal x

• Posted by: SalokinReport Comment

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